In this episode, Anna and Paul talk through The Sheep Detectives — a film that tackles death, denial, and what it means to belong, wrapped in comedy and heart. They explore why avoiding grief always comes with a bill, and why remembering, even when it hurts, keeps us connected to each other.

In this episode, Liz and Logan get into what it really felt like to spend a weekend in the desert surrounded by queer community, why spaces like No Other Festival matter more than ever right now, how the experience of seeing all kinds of bodies just existing freely can quietly shift something inside you, and what it brings up when even in the most welcoming spaces, you still find yourself wondering — do I belong here?

In this episode, Sarah, Madison, and Elizabeth get into what rupture really looks like, why repair feels so scary, how to know when a relationship is worth the effort, and what it actually takes to have those hard conversations without blowing everything up.

So if you've ever wanted to get better at conflict — or just wondered why it feels so hard — this one's for you.

In this episode Paul and Dani sit down in a very real, very human place: tired, grieving, a little cynical, and unsure they “got it” today. What unfolds is an honest conversation about what happens when life hands you things that can’t be fixed — persistent grief, chronic stress, old childhood loneliness, the slow drip of exhaustion.

Together, they wrestle with what it means to support clients, friends, and each other when there’s no clear solution. At the heart of the episode is a simple but powerful shift: moving from “I don’t got this” to “We got this.” It’s a conversation about borrowing hope, showing up imperfectly, and discovering that sometimes connection — not fixing — is what actually transforms the moment.

In this episode, therapists Liam and Sarah, discuss the topic of burnout. Through personal anecdotes and professional insights, they debunk the myth that burnout is an individual problem and highlight how workplace culture, unrealistic expectations, and lack of community contribute to this pervasive issue. They offer advice to mitigate burnout and explore how to reclaim your well-being in a demanding work environment.

In this episode of ‘Out of Session’ by Kindman and Co., hosts Kaitlin, Dani, and Clarissa discuss the concepts of compassion fatigue, guilt, and shame, while reflecting on societal and cultural narratives around rest and productivity. The therapists underscore the importance of intentional rest as a form of resistance against the pressures of hyper-productivity and capitalist culture, and advocate for self-care despite feelings of guilt or inadequacy.

In this episode of Out of Session with Kindman and Co., hosts Elizabeth and Logan discuss the importance of therapists embracing their own humanity and messiness. They challenge the societal expectation that therapists must always appear composed and all-knowing.

In this episode Paul Kindman reconnects with Lillian Farzan, a psychotherapist, digital nomad, poet, and activist. The conversation delves into Lillian's journey from interviewing for a position at Kindman and Co. just before the pandemic to establishing her private practice as a therapist while traveling the world. They discuss Lillian's personal experiences, and the importance of integrating personal values and activism into therapy. They also explore the significance of organizations like Standing Together, and the ongoing need to address systemic issues affecting mental health.

Dani and Anna, who are both therapists specializing in grief, discuss their experiences and challenges related to grief therapy. The conversation delves into the complexities of grief, the emotional depth it brings to therapy, and the importance of making space for different types of grief. They urge listeners to seek support, emphasizing the transformative power of having someone to share the burden of grief, whether through therapy, support groups, or spiritual guidance.

In today's episode, Sarah introduces Madison, a new therapist and grad student at Kindman and Co. They discuss their soon to be launched caregiver support group, both share personal experiences being caregivers, and reflect on the challenges and responsibilities that come with this role. They express the importance of support systems, the evolving nature of caregiving, and their hopes for this group's impact. 

What does it really feel like to be a new therapist? In this honest, funny, and deeply human conversation, Sarah and Liam reflect on the messy, meaningful early days of becoming clinicians—from imposter syndrome to unexpected moments of connection. Whether you're in the field or just therapy-curious, this episode offers a rare peek behind the scenes.

“Improv masks it, makes it fun. Like, oh, yeah, I'm just playing this silly game. But then when we sit and we start to debrief what that game brought up for us, we see that it brought up a lot more than just funny space aliens.”

Shannon Stott’s approach to improv isn’t just about laughter—it’s about listening to your body, accessing your truth, and practicing how you want to move through the world. In this conversation, Logan Kim and Shannon dive deep into how playful, low-stakes games can help us explore identity, make intentional choices, and connect more fully with ourselves and others.

“Most of the moments that we have are actually low stakes,” Shannon reflects. “And improv helps us remember that it’s possible to be right here—in this moment—making one choice at a time.”